Why Atheists want to change things?
I guess the Traditional marriage is out the door… welcome gay marriage. Single parents are much more acceptable now.
I think Christmas and all other holidays might extinct too…
I guess that is the Atheists’ goals…
oh well… I guess the Traditional won’t last long…
And oh oh Recession… won’t go away.
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cause without change wed still be sitting in caves hitting each other with clubs
You blame the recession on atheism?
That’s funny and pathetic.
"I guess the Traditional marriage is out the door… welcome gay marriage. "
How does that change traditional marriage? You know, the religious groups opposing same sex marriage seem to be the only ones who think this way. How does it ruin YOUR marriage?
"Single parents are much more acceptable now."
Yeah, the divorce rate is over 50%, guess what, there’s a lot of Christians getting divorced, if it’s the atheists causing all this, why are so many Christians getting divorced and becoming single parents?
"I think Christmas and all other holidays might extinct too…
I guess that is the Atheists’ goals…"
I like presents, why the hell would I want to stop YOUR traditions. I don’t care what you do in your home, just don’t try and bring it into MY HOME.
"And oh oh Recession… won’t go away."
I’m so glad we’re talking about related topics here…
Why is gay marriage an atheist fight?
Religion has had thousands of years to make good on it’s promises of peace and love and harmony and it has failed miserably. I think it’s time to try something else.
-S-
Most of us like Christmas, just not the reason for it. I personally would rather see families stay together when kids are involved.
But gay marriage really doesn’t effect me…and it doesn’t effect you. I’m not in favor of the government making rules like that.
I have no problems with religious holidays, and I welcome civil rights to gays to allow them marriage if they are so inclined. We are not trying to phase out the practices, just the bigotry involved with the religions.
Single parents have always been around – plenty of religious folks get divorced.
Gay marriage is simply a civil rights issue, little to no different from when black & white weren’t allowed to marry.
Holidays will exist for whomever wants to observe them
Traditional does not mean better
Recession – this has nothing to do with religion. Although, apparently our money states "in god we trust" – perhaps it’s time to find a more trustworthy backer.
Oh of course, atheists often cite divorce and gay marriage as a primary aim.
And the recession as well, ah yes a lack of belief in god and a higher intellect must always result in innappropraite lending by banks.
Try thinking about what you suggest next time, you might as well blame global warming on trees.
happy to celebrate Xmas – santa and prezzies
in fact we’ll incorporate other festivals into our celebrations
(dammit that has happended already)
you find many christians supporting gay marriage and single parenting
lots on this forum !
Don’t get your recession comment though – please elaborate
If things didn’t change, we’d still have bloodletting and trial by fire.
Atheists have no goals, other then to live.
And if you want a traditional marriage, have your dad sell you to the highest bidder. Appeal to tradition is a logical fallacy, dearie.
Rachel why are you so concerned? as long as you’re close to your faith that’s all that matters, God is not going to let a bunch of humans run the world, hes going to restore things back to the way they SHOULD be. so don’t worry about it. let them have their fun for now.
Nobody is taking anything away from you though are they.
You have to move with the times and accept there are others who don’t follow your beliefs. The holidays are for anyone to celebrate in which way they prefer, but it’s not stopping you from celebrating in your ways. The same as marriage. It’s not as if we’re all being forced to have a gay marriage.
Yeah we all just want to ruin the world. Christians have never done anything to try to get rid of atheists.
You must have studied Business and Economics for years to come up with your theory relating to recessions.
Oh please, traditional marriage was out the door when they made it illegal for 40 year old men to marry 12 year old girls. And when they gave women a say win who they married, and when people started marrying for love.
Traditional marriage is not at all how you think of it. Today’s concept of marriage is very new. Traditional marriage was about making babies and gaining money and land, not love.
And are you implying that there is something wrong with single parents? I know that divorce is hard on children but considering the reasons for some divorces I would much rather have the children live with one parent then be beaten to death by the other so the family could stay together. Single parents aren’t a bad thing, there are many cases where the family is better off being divorced.
Traditional? There are very likely things that you now consider traditional that was once considered radical, and anti-Christian. For example, Saint Lilith’s marriage example. What we consider "traditional" marriage, was not traditional in Bible times when men owned women and parents arranged marriages. Would you be okay with your father considering you as property and telling you whom you will marry and he will own you?
There are Christians who support gay marriage. I know pastors who are divorced and are single parents. There are ordained men and women who say they are gay (and might be parents).
If you want to celebrate Christmas, who is going to stop you from doing so in the privacy of your own home? You don’t have to celebrate the secular, materialistic version of it. But then, so what if, say, Valentine’s Day goes out the window? It’s just a Hallmark holiday anyway.
I’m also trying to figure out how the recession is connected with atheism.
From your avatar I’m guessing you’re black, or at least some sort of minority. It’s very ironic that you’re opposed to basic social rights for gays and atheists when you yourself belonged to a discriminated group.
You blame freedom to marry on atheism?
Good.
You blame recession on atheism?
Idiotic.
You claim that atheists are banning you celebrating Christmas?
Lies.
You value ‘tradition’? Maybe you’d like to go back to colonial America when the Ten Commandments were a major component of law?
Yeah? It would be good, right? Here’s a copy from the 1600s, why not read it?:
http://rationalrevolution.net/images/masslaw.jpg
Do you like that? You do?
Cool…tradition rocks…
Rachel, without change you would still be shitting in the river behind the hut you lived in waiting for your father to strike a good deal with whoever wanted to be your husband.
I’m not an atheist, but i’ll give it a stab.
Traditions evolve as the people learn and grow, they always have, and they always will.
Sticking to something just for the sake of tradition amounts to a refusal to grow and learn.
I don’t hear Atheist trying to "ban" holidays or anything, so I’m not sure where you came up with that fear.
You mean traditional as in polygamy, where women are treated as property? Why would you want that?
And we don’t want to get rid of Christmas, I’m all for holidays…just don’t assume that everyone celebrates Christmas.
What does atheism have to do with the recession?
That’s complete nonsense. Gay marriage in no way, shape or form damages hetero marriage. There are more single parents due to Christians getting divorced than for anything atheists have done. And the only threat atheists pose to Christian holidays is in the minds of paranoid Christians.
Atheism doesn’t demote heterosexual marriage.
Holidays aren’t all that necessary, but they
won’t go ‘extinct’ (they aren’t a species).
Your guess isn’t accurate.
Atheism doesn’t threaten cultural traditions,
I’m not sure where you got that from.
The recession wasn’t caused by lacking belief in deities.
It’s also not America’s first recession.
Considering that there’s an association between states with a higher percentage of "conservative christians" and higher incidence of teen pregnancy, and lower teen pregnancy and divorce rates in the "liberal" northeast, I think that you should ask your fellow christians why they are so easily abandoning the morals they say liberals don’t have, and why they think liberals don’t have them when the evidence says they do.